Curse

=HT=Ingram · Jun 07, 2005, 12:48 PM // 12:48

I'm sure arenanet will impose some penalty for the incident as a violation of the EULA by using 3rd party software to change the game in some way... however he is still a customer of arenanets in that he DID purchase the software package and has a right to use it under rights of purchase in good faith. Since there is no offline method to use the software they do have to let him back in after some penalty period. If may even be a fine of some kind for the account service required to fix it. So though I do feel bad for the guy, it does serve as a lesson not to go trying to screw around with the game engine and do something your not supposed too. cause you'll likely get burnt in the process...

Firepro · Jun 07, 2005, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Whooo... this dude tried to download an application that would give him an unfair advantage in game - an unfair advantage over players like us...

I'm glad his account got ripped HAHAHAHA... nice to know cheaters don't always prosper

deathwearer · Jun 07, 2005, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Lol, sad for this guy, but oh well.... next time he should know to never download stuff you dont know about.

Algren Cole · Jun 07, 2005, 05:03 PM // 17:03

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Originally Posted by Playful Kitty

Wait wait wait wait, so he was the leader of of sot or are you? cause why not just kick his account out and that would take the hacker out.... but if the hacker is now the leader well um... your fudged.

don't call the kid a hacker...he's not.

you're friend isn't smart by the way. that's aboutt he dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone do. Scan your files before you execute them.

Dwiggit · Jun 07, 2005, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by Algren Cole

Scan your files before you execute them.

These BOTs don't show up as viruses or such. They have legitimate code in them that passes along the login info. The virus scanner will not catch it.

On the other hand, the code may give an IP address or DNS name to where the information is sent. Someone with coding/hacking experience may be able to decipher this info out of the code.

Also, it's easy to see that this guy made a mistake, now that the issue is in the open. Maybe it wasn't so easy to see beforehand. (Hindsight is 20/20!) He did use some poor judgement in not checking it out the legitimacy, besides believing someone shouting the info in-game.

There are many other games that use BOTs that are not malicious. Perhaps this person thought it would be like the others, not too hard to believe.

I would never use a BOT only because I truly enjoy the challenge of the game, but that's my preference. Many other people enjoy games better with the BOTs. For GW, it looks like a bad idea, though.

As a last note, if anyone sees someone promoting this junk, take a screenshot and pass it along to AN. Maybe they could find the source as well as ban the account.

Dwig

Konquest · Jun 07, 2005, 05:40 PM // 17:40

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Originally Posted by Algren Cole

you're friend isn't smart by the way. that's aboutt he dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone do. Scan your files before you execute them.

Some (read Most) keyloggers don't show up in a virus scan, so you may have one and you never know. Heck! Some guys even wrote custom keyloggers just for the GW application they were developping, so there is no way a virus scan could have caught that...

Algren Cole · Jun 07, 2005, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwiggit

These BOTs don't show up as viruses or such. They have legitimate code in them that passes along the login info. The virus scanner will not catch it.

On the other hand, the code may give an IP address or DNS name to where the information is sent. Someone with coding/hacking experience may be able to decipher this info out of the code.

Also, it's easy to see that this guy made a mistake, now that the issue is in the open. Maybe it wasn't so easy to see beforehand. (Hindsight is 20/20!) He did use some poor judgement in not checking it out the legitimacy, besides believing someone shouting the info in-game.

There are many other games that use BOTs that are not malicious. Perhaps this person thought it would be like the others, not too hard to believe.

I would never use a BOT only because I truly enjoy the challenge of the game, but that's my preference. Many other people enjoy games better with the BOTs. For GW, it looks like a bad idea, though.

As a last note, if anyone sees someone promoting this junk, take a screenshot and pass it along to AN. Maybe they could find the source as well as ban the account.

Dwig

scan with mcafee...mcafee picks up email address' and the such and checks more in depth than other Anti-Virus scanners do.

go to google.com and download a 'Hex Editor'. When you download something from a source you don't know..scan it with your anti-virus and then open it in the hex editor and do a search for "@" and ".com" ".net" ".biz" that'll pretty much cover your bases.

Algren Cole · Jun 07, 2005, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by Konquest

Some (read Most) keyloggers don't show up in a virus scan, so you may have one and you never know. Heck! Some guys even wrote custom keyloggers just for the GW application they were developping, so there is no way a virus scan could have caught that...

refer to my above post....if you're a moron you deserve to get scammed.